Thursday, January 23, 2014

Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument - Geronimo's Cave, Robledo Mountains








 I did this hike with my friend Eric on Sunday. The existence of this cave only came under my radar within the last few years, although it's obviously heavily visited as far unofficial trails in our region go. It got me thinking about all the ways I've found out about all the destinations I write about in this blog.  It's hasn't always been easy finding the places that I've read or heard about. Information is  incorrect or sketchy, names get confused, access is limited and even maps are sometimes wrong( see" Conkling's Cave" or " Souse Springs" in this blog). Happily, I had some reliable info about Geronimo's  Cave and had a very high degree of confidence that we would find it without any problem.
      We parked off the levee on the east side of the river. To my surprise, there was a small amount of water flowing now. I was still expecting it to be bone dry as with my previous two outings to the Robledos this winter. Crossing  wasn't much of  problem though. We wandered around amongst the thorny and not so thorny shrubs on the west bank  a bit, moseying over to the long mesa that extends from the cliffs all the way to the river. Along the way there were bits of pottery, colorful flakes of jasper,  and deer tracks in the mesquite anchored sand dunes. We made our way, steeply, onto the mesa and in no time had found a good trail and were at the entrance to the cave- a tall crack in the cliffs. I attached my headlamp, we began exploring. There are some formations in the cave, which are no longer growing.Most have been broken off or marred by graffiti. I noticed that the air quickly got warmer and a little stale the further back we went. At some point, perhaps fifty feet in, there is no longer any sunlight penetration. Off to my right was a narrow passage, that went on for  more than fifty feet.One skinny individual had made it back there to paint his( of course it was a male) initials. I was intrigued but didn't venture. Another passage was above us. My friend said that he had heard there was another cave above this one, and when we were back outside we explored the ledge to  the south  but found nothing except some graffiti left by"Antonio" back in 2002. What is going through the mind of someone who carries a  can of spray paint up the side of a mountain to mar a natural setting like this? I have a few ideas, but  I would like to hear some others.
      We  followed  a trail,marked with red ribbon, down the long ridge.  It was so peaceful atop that mesa and felt so remote even though the farms along the river and I-25 were just a stones throw away.  Eventually the trail took us down easy from the mesa top. We meandered a bit as we returned. I found a  beautiful basalt mano, my first, stuck in the side of an arroyo. We encountered  a woman looking for rocks in another arroyo. She had driven in from the river on her large ATV. In a short while we were back at the car, completing a nice hike on a beautiful winter day.

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28 Comments:

Blogger apvnm said...

Hi! Great post.

Have you been in the Aldo Leopold along S. Diamond heading NW from the trail to Meown?

Thanks, Alex
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January 24, 2014 at 8:00 AM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

No, I haven't but have always wanted to hike that trail down into South Diamond. It's one of the few major streams I haven't been to in the Black Range.

January 24, 2014 at 6:24 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I live near this mountain range, but have no idea how to find it specifically... Where on the river levy did you start out, approximately?

March 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

We accessed the levy road where it takes the river takes a big turn to the northwest away from North Valley, but Hope Road or Cactus Patch Way are good access points. The big mesa that comes all the way down to the river is what you are looking for. You will find several trails leading to the cave.

March 9, 2014 at 8:22 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Back in 1957, my best friend and I in Las Cruces Union High School made several attempts at exploring Geronimo's Cave.

Local legend at the time said that the cave got the name because the U.S. Army chased Geronimo into that cave back in the 1880s and thought they had him trapped, but he went completely through the mountain and escaped.

We made several attempts to locate this route through the mountain and explored several branches off the main cavern until they came to a dead end, and once we got way back in one of those branch offs and ran out of air.

My friend and I planned on making one more attempt to locate Geronimo's passage but never got around to it. We planned to take climbing gear and rappel down to the bottom of that large hole just inside the cave's entrance and look for a branch that would take us through the mountain.

Well, maybe in the next life.

April 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

The quick change in the quality of the air surprised me and alleviated me of my urge do any more than a cursory exploration. There is also stories of a passage way that runs along the length of the Caballo Mountains.

April 1, 2014 at 6:28 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Well managed to find Hope Road, turn upriver on the leve road drive to a point just accross from the mesa. Found a lightly marked trail up to the mesa. Hiked along the rim to the top then upstream accross the Mesa on a thorny but traveled trail. Rounding the corner found the cave. Nice medium difficulty day hike. Looks like a lot of climbing/caving oporunities in the area.

January 12, 2015 at 8:28 AM  
Blogger Gus said...

A friend and I went yesterday to explore the Geronimo cave for the first time. We had good flashlights and water and snacks expecting a long morning of exploring. It turned out to be kind of disappointing because it was nothing we had anticipated. We went through all possible passages, and I even ventured to climb down the large hole -the one you come across once you manage your way through the narrow and high crack to the right?- but there were no more holes, cracks, or passages to continue exploring. My friend has been told by a good source that there's a crack down there were you can crawl your way to a big room. I am thinking that I might have missed it, I don't know. I plan to go back and look for that passage again.

April 28, 2015 at 4:53 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

I have yet to see any photos or a description of a big room. Just came across an area with many potential caves- see my Mineral Creek North Percha Blog. I've heard there are a few others in the Robledos as well.

April 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM  
Blogger Gus said...

Is it posible that we are mistaking the cave? I've been doing some reading snd Geronimo's Cave in AZ keeps popping up. Here's a description of how to get there according to a Blogger: "Begin your hike at the Peralta Trailhead, hike to Fremont Saddle, then take the cave trail to the cave. Turn around & retrace your steps to return to the trailhead."

April 28, 2015 at 9:45 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

There is definitely Geronimo's Cave in the Superstition Mts as well. And the legend of him evading his enemies via a passage through the mountain apparently applies to both localities. I've read at least one old timer talk about the New Mexico Geronimo's Cave and what beautiful place it was before it was vandalized, which made me believe there had to be more to it, but I, like you, was disappointed, as I believe many other people have been.

April 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

How do you get or geronimos cave?

February 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM  
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February 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I wonder if there is a way to clean up the graffiti In the cave?

February 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I was just there this past Saturday, such a
Beautiful cave , went in about 30 yard. Wanted to go further but was running out of time. I will go back and see how far the cave goes. Yes it is very disappointing that people can't see the beauty in nature and just leave it alone for other people to enjoy.

February 19, 2017 at 6:47 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

I think there are special paints that can be used to cover up graffiti on rock surfaces. I don't what techniques there are for actual removal.

February 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I've been out there a couple times and have not been able to find the opening. I even took Hope Rd and crossed the river as suggested above. About how far is it from the actual riverbed? And do you think it would be possible to use Rocky Acres Tr on the West side of the river for a Summer attempt?

July 7, 2017 at 10:59 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

It's about 1 mile from the west bank of the river and about 600 feet up. If you drive 1 mile north on the levy road from the Hope Road intersection, you will be directly across from the cave, but it's probably not a good idea to cross the river unless you're really good with a canoe or kayak. From the Rocky Acres area it's about an 10-11 mile round trip hike, so I would definitely not recommend it for summer.

July 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Great. Thank you for the info.

July 9, 2017 at 7:50 PM  
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July 21, 2017 at 2:45 PM  
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July 23, 2017 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger Oz said...

Devon have you heard anyone mention anything about a cave in the organ mountains? I have heard things about a large cave up in the organs themselves.

May 29, 2019 at 1:10 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

These are the caves I know about: A cave high above the Stevenson- Bennet mine that we call " Donna's Lost Cave" in our book, La Cueva, several caves at Peña Blanca, Beasly Cave which I think is over near Finley Canyon, the Organ Eye( which is actually an arch formation, but wide enough to feel like a cave, Apache Cave above Ladera Canyon, Shelter Cave on Bishop Cap, and Conkling Cave( also near Bishop Cap, but I have never found it). I have found a long abandoned mine high up on a hillside on the way back from Organ Peak, that some might think is a cave as well. I've read and heard told that the Torpedo Mine in Organ ran into a cave system when digging shafts for mining operations too. That's about it.

May 30, 2019 at 12:05 PM  
Anonymous Douglas Flynn said...

I like your comment about why would anyone bring a can of spray paint....I get sick of seeing people uglifying the natural beauty of a landscape with their obsessive compulsion to write their name on it, as if seeing it gives them some sense of meaning or importance. Personally, I think people who partake in vandalizing nature are insecure, live uninteresting lives, and basically are self centered and only give a shit about themselves. That's my opinion.

February 19, 2020 at 11:09 AM  
Blogger Steve L said...

Unfortunately 6 attempts in trying to find the petroglyphs in Rincon feel short & unsuccessful. Very much frustrated. Maybe you can email me personally and see where I am falling short of finding these for photography. Pls be assured I am not into sharing.
Also 3 attempts at the Torniuco location failed. Recently found out Radium Springs & Hatch have recently discovered rock art.
I can show you vandalizsm at the Thebo Arizona petroglyphs which hurt me heart.

April 19, 2020 at 1:21 PM  
Blogger Devon Fletcher said...

Steve, I can send you google earth images which I think will get you to the petroglyph sites at Rincon and Tonuco if you want to give me an email address.
Devon

April 19, 2020 at 8:11 PM  
Anonymous Linda said...

Thank you for your interesting blog post and comments as well! When getting into the cave, there was a little bat sleeping: so be careful not disturbing those little friends! Incredible that there was so much damage, yet, it was a great experience exploring this beautiful cave and the surroundings.

April 18, 2021 at 7:41 AM  
Anonymous Autisun said...

Thanks all. I've ventured deep into Geronimo's cave 7 times between 1968 and 69.
There is a small shelf about 10 ft up in a corner not too far in. A broken stalactite allows enough room to squeeze through onto a narrow shelf. A short ways you'll encounter a huge bolder--you can inch your way around this to gain access to a giant room. We left many candles sticks for return trips into this room. My first time navigating around the huge boulder I used a safety rope.

April 19, 2022 at 3:36 PM  

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